Hong Kong Disneyland shark fin soup controversy
After around a month of wrangling, Disney has at last agreed not to offer shark fin soup at Hong Kong Disneyland. (news on 25 June 2005. I'm keeping this thread, partly as may be of interest as record of the arguments against serving shark fin soup (Disney mustered only feeble arguments in favour); there is plenty of info relevant to broader campaign, aiming to get shark fin soup off menus everywhere.
Here are two emails I've received, which have been sent to Disney executives including Michael Eisner re reported plans to include shark's fin soup on banquet menu.
Dear Mr Eisner, I was more than a little upset to find reported (http://www.thestandard.com.hk/stdn/std/Metro/GE18Ak03.html) that it is planned to serve shark fin soup at banquets in the Hong Kong Disneyland. Could I say that I think this is a mistake of the highest order, no matter that such soup is perceived as prestigious by some consumers, from whom you simply wish to make money, I suppose. Shame on you. Frankly, I find it surprising that you should be unaware of the issue, it having received wide publicity over many years.On the other hand, I am frequently astounded by people's resistance to doing the right thing - as you can tell from correspondence documented here: http://www.scdc.org.hk/hongkong/sharkfin.html - and links contained therein, although we have had some notable success in reversing such bad decisions, as you will see. I would be delighted it if we can add your change of heart to that page. Otherwise, we can only encourage everyone to boycott Disney globally, pointing out crass and cynical profiteering. What makes it far worse, of course, is the fact that Disney makes a big point of espousing conservation and environmental awareness and protection. Certainly, from http://corporate.disney.go.com/environmentality/index.html we read that 'As Jiminy says, "Every little bit makes a big difference," reminding each person that we all play a critical role in promoting Environmentality. '
And your policy ( http://corporate.disney.go.com/environmentality/environmental_policy.html ) says, inter alia: Laws and Regulations Make every effort to understand and adhere to, not only the spirit, but the letter of environmental laws and regulations. Work to identify issues that may not yet be identified in the law, but could result in adverse environmental effects. Strive to exceed required levels of compliance wherever feasible. - which all suggests that your public heart is in the right place.
Oddly enough, the "Environmentality" link for http://disney.go.com/disneyhand/environmentality/index.html on the side bar on http://disney.go.com/disneyhand/environmentality/dwcf_organizations.html is broken - perhaps reflective of the company's attitude internally? There is no doubt, as judged by global scientific consensus, that sharks are in trouble. You are, quite overtly and directly contributing to their demise. I will not rehearse the voluminous evidence, the harrowing effects, and the ghastly future prospects, but should you need I will be happy to provide this material. No doubt others will be doing this anyway.
Could I suggest a more positive approach? Admit that it was an error, remove shark fin soup from all menus, advertise the fact - and why. Turn it to educational and PR advantage. Or would you rather be seen to be trying to profit shamelessly in a classic example of internal contradiction? After all, if MasterCard and Cathay Pacific can do it, so can you. I look forward to hearing from you soon, and a prompt change in the menu in HK - and elsewhere in the world if other sites serve shark fin at present. Many thanks, BWD Prof. Brian W. Darvell Reader in Dental Materials Science, The University of Hong Kong
To: Mr. Michael Eisner, Chief Executive Officer, Disney World, Hong Kong. Dear Mr Eisner, Earthcare and her members were surprised at your recent promotion of the expensive banquets and the menu that would cause adverse consequences to the already depleting ocean resources. Earthcare and international groups have been working hard to stop the wasteful and cruel practices of live sharks finning for years.Nowadays, advanced corporations put "Corporate Social Reponsibility" and "Ethical issues" high up on their agenda. Recent reports of local newspaper about your plans to serve shark fin soup at banquets in the Hong Kong Disneyland are not socially responsible/ethical acts. As part of your proposed plan is to attract both local and Mainland Chinese customers, no doubt, it is of utmost importance that you do not give the wrong message to some Mainland Chinese people who may not be alerted to the shark fin issue.
As the shark fin issue had received wide publicity over many years, we hope that Disney would not just pay lip service to the principles of conservation and environmental awareness and protection. In fact, this is the best opportunity to tell the world and people from both Hong Kong and Mainland China that sharks and ocean resources are in plight. I look forward to hearing from you soon for a positive remedial action about the issue.
Yours sincerely, NG Wai Yee Director Earthcare
Post edited by: martin, at: 2005/06/25 15:55
Dear Mr. Robinson,
It has come to my attention that the Disneyland Hong Kong is offering shark fin as part of its Fary Tale Wedding banquet promotion.
Your effort to offer shark fin to the local Chinese is certainly understandable, but I would like to query the image you are portraying to patrons visiting your theme park from overseas, and also those westerners residing in Hong Kong SAR and Asia Pacific.
Please let me respectfully suggest that offering shark fin may actually be counterproductive to the long-term image of Disney - locally, regionally and more importantly internationally. Recent campaigns against MasterCard, Hong Kong Tourism Board, Citibank and Singapore Airlines have all resulted in them retracting any shark fin promotional advertising or consumption offers, with global responsive pressure being an incredible persuasive factor.
In recent years, the scientific and conservation communities have come to understand that the shark fin trade is a major contributor to an unsustainable decline in many of the world’s shark populations. The explosion of the Asian shark fin trade, particularly in countries with Chinese cultures, is promoting a worldwide gold rush to cash in on the high price for shark fins.
Unfortunately, the result is quite clear: Sharply decreased shark populations, with knock on detrimental effects to entire ecosystems and the livelihoods of fishermen and tour operators worldwide.
Sharks are unlike most fish, in that there are not too many to begin with (since they are top predators just like people), they reproduce very slowly (tens of years before most sharks are sexually mature and can begin to reproduce), and they have very few offspring (a few each birth cycle at most, unlike other fish which may spawn by the millions).
As a result, people all over the world have come to realise that the demand for shark fin needs to be brought under control. Moreover, there is no nutritional value in shark fin, and there is also a high incidence of mercury and accumulation of other toxins in shark fin samples. The concern over this issue is growing rapidly and is spread equally among Asian, western and other nations.
As a global icon to many children and adults, Disney has the opportunity to set an example for other corporations. By selecting shark fin as a means of $$ attraction, you are conveying the message that Disney endorses ecologically unsound practices and unsustainable industries. While this is most probably not the case, it is certainly the understanding that will spread rapidly around the world via email and the internet - under the voice of shark conservation.
As a potential future visitor to Disneyland Hong Kong, I ask that you revisit this topic, and reconsider alternative, less harmful, ingredients for wedding banquets at Disney; ordinary soup will suffice. I would also ask that you consider responding soon to those already concerned by your wedding banquet display and constructive people from around the world who have attempted to explain the issue and offer you more substantive data to support the statements above.
On another note I have just finished presenting a talk at David Li Ka Shing HKMA School where 100+ students listened to a compelling lecture and watched a shark finning film; If you would like detailed information or more material to explain to staff & guests the reason for removing shark fin from the wedding menu then please let me know. I assure you my patronage (and many others) will change should Disney act decisively over this sensitive issue.
Thank you for your attention, and I hope that you will take this correspondence in the constructive manner that it is intended.
With regards,
Charles Frew, MSc
[Don Robinson is HK Disneyland group managing director - Martin]
Post edited by: Martin, at: 2005/05/24 22:27
I can NOT believe that even Disney (whom I don't respect anyway) would stoop so low as to put something on their menu that involves catching endangered sharks, slicing off their fins and chucking them back in again to starve to death (they can't swim or hunt) I live in DB, and Disneyland is being built right across the water from where I live, ruining the view. Disney has built its great "kingdom" on reclaimed land, where endangered pink dlophins are rumoured to hunt. Disney also plans to have fireworks every night, which will be noisy and send all kinds of fumes into the air, no doubt harming a few birds along the way, as they'll be forced to breathe in polluted air... it is evident that Disney, despite its claims, does not care at all for nature, whether trees, birds, dolphins or sharks. Is Disneyland worth 5 billion dollars if all it does is to destroy HK's environment? PS. How did I find this website? I have to write an essay for school on some food-related concern, decided on Shark's Fin Soup, typed "shark fin soup wrong" into Google, and found this site. I am glad I did because now I know just how incredibly cruel and cold-hearted this supposedly fun, friendly company is. DISNEYLAND IS BEING BUILT IN HONG KONG. PEOPLE IN HONG KONG SHOULD HAVE A SAY IN WHAT IT DOES!!! SPEAK OUT, EVERYBODY OUT THERE!!!
So far, after only one day, over 400 students have signed a petition against Disney's decision to serve shark fin soup. In signing the petition they have pledged not to go to Disney Land until they stop serving shark fin. There are [were] some hi res pictures here:
It has all been organised by the students (of all nationalities). They will be avialable for interviews tomorrow lunchtime, if you are available. Paul
Well, congratulations to Disney. Although it was late and under pressure, today's decision to take shark's fin off the Disneyland menu is to be applauded.
Coverage in the local Chinese press was patchy - Ming Pao and Apple Daily both presented it as the environmental victory it was. Apple highlighted presure from local environmentalists - no hint of that "Eastern v Western culture" nonsense.
But The Sun and Oriental Daily News seem not to have mentioned the news. One can only assume, sadly, that they think their readers don't care about the issue, and neither paper has the cojones to take a lead. The HK Economic Journal didn't cover it either.
Martin Turner
Post edited by: martin, at: 2005/06/25 15:47
nothing wrong with shark fin soup.
in new zealand we eat hundred of tons of shark (most of our fish and chips), we throw out the fins.
the question is, is it better to throw out or serve them as soup?
always so easy to critize others with different tastes.
Hi. we are a group that wants to convince people to eat less shark fin soup. Do you know any way to make people eat less shark fin soup because we know what we want to do but we don't really have a plan how to make people eat less shark fin soup.
Tough question.
Seems education can have an effect, especially on younger people (older generations harder to sway, yet important); but slow slow going
Have you contacted Hong Kong Shark Foundation?
The editor of Sing Tao Daily takes a measured but progressive view toward getting shark's fin off the menu. As I understand it, the local Chinese media have not really taken up the issue before.
Here's what he wrote in the HK Standard:
Turning up heat on shark's fin soup
Tuesday, June 22, 2010
Eating shark's fin has become a political issue that is getting bigger in Hong Kong.
An environmental group wrote to 56 government departments and public bodies, asking about the situation regarding their consumption of shark's fin, and whether the departments have internal guidelines on this matter.
Having shark's fin on the menu of a banquet is obviously politically incorrect.
So sooner or later, the government will have to strike shark's fin from the menu when entertaining guests, to avoid pressure from green groups.
Among the public organizations surveyed, only the Hong Kong Observatory issued an internal memo - in February 2008 - prohibiting shark's fin at any official banquet.
The Independent Commission Against Corruption, meanwhile, said its practice is not to serve shark's fin or any other endangered species when entertaining guests, or at internal events.
Government departments have always been the pioneer of new practices.
Past examples include proper setting of air- conditioning thermostats, and the five-day workweek. If the green groups are successful in getting the government to ban shark's fin from banquet tables, it will set an example for the rest of the community, and serve to keep the issue alive.
In Hong Kong, shark's fin is not just a food matter, but one that has economic implications. A senior trade official once told me the SAR is not only a big consumer, but also a major trading center of shark's fins.
The movement against the consumption of shark's fin would, therefore, have a negative impact on the related traders here.
Eating shark's fin is considered bad from a conservation perspective.
Footage of fishermen throwing live sharks back to the sea after cutting off their fins are not helping the image of the industry.
Senior officials noted that any trade involving the use of natural resources would run into the issue of conservation.
Understanding that conservation is an unstoppable movement, some industries choose to go with the flow and practice self-discipline, such as setting hunting limits.
The shark's fin trade is no exception. In order to survive in a society that is growing in conservation awareness, it must find ways to adapt too. Siu Sai-wo is chief editor of Sing Tao Daily.
Following public pressure, Citibank has "stopped all credit card promotions related to shark fin" in Asia Pacific. It first halted only the meal promotions in Hong Kong, allowing similar ones in Singapore to continue, in contravention of its own positions on corporate social and environmental responsibility. (The bank cried that 'no one in Singapore had complained.' Presumably they didn't ask the sharks.)
But after the anomaly was pointed out in the letters pages of the SCMP, including by Eric Bohm, chief executive of WWF, as well as by the New York Times, the bank's 'no shark's fin' policy was extended to all of Asia. (The promotions also featured other endangered species such as South African abalone and blue fin tuna.)
So, two cheers for Citibank, who finally came round to the good side, after some severe prodding.
(For original refs, see SCMP letters on 28 July and 2 Aug 2010, and the bank's own letter announcing the change on 3 Aug.)
From Associated Press:
In April, the state of Hawaii in the United States banned the sale and possession of shark fin. The campaign is now gaining ground in Hong Kong.
Computer engineer Clement Lee set up a Facebook group in March urging locals to cut their gift money to newlyweds by 30 percent if they serve shark fin soup at their wedding banquets. The group now has more than 18,000 supporters. In July, he forced Citibank Hong Kong drop a shark fin set dinner discount for its credit card holders after criticizing the marketing campaign in another Facebook group.
And since June, Hong Kong environmental group Green Sense has signed up 182 primary and secondary schools for their "Sharks We Care" campaign, with the schools pledging not to serve shark fin at banquets and activities.
Responding to the new consciousness, local restaurants are starting to offer shark-fin free menus. Chinese restaurant chain L.H. Group said the response has been positive.
"We get a lot of inquiries and people interested in ordering the new menu weekly since we rolled out in May," said company spokeswoman Toby Kwan.
Local shark fin traders also say they are noticing the shift in attitudes.
"Our shark fin business has dropped considerably. Environmental groups are writing such bad stories about shark fin, a lot of people do not want to buy shark fin now," said Mak Ching-po, chairman of the Hong Kong Dried Seafood and Grocery Merchants Association.
Here's my reply - mediacritique101 [dot] wordpress [dot] com. Yay for shark fin soup! :D
Sadly, this "reply" is no such thing: no consideration of extensive info in this thread, just a silly, ignorant and ill-informed blog post supporting shark fin trade.
Cruelty is important. Yet so too is the shark fin trade's role in pushing many species towards extiction; notions of shark farming are just plain ill-informed: don't think you are original in suggesting this. If it was easy, or viable, would be happening now.
Chinese culture? Balderdash! - not Chinese culture of any antiquity; shark fin was formerly only for a very few, elite.
Tasty? I'm told shark fin alone is tasteless; just cartilage so you'd expect that. About all it does is add some texture to the soup, and of course adds some snob value.
See, thats what im talkin bout - self-serving bias. You flippantly brush off others opinions as silly and ignorant just because they run differently from yours. If you were so well-informed yourself, you would have known that shark fin soup dates back to the Ming dynasty and not just "Chinese culture of any antiquity". Its not only for "elites" but is also a signature dish at Chinese weddings and important occasion. For the Chinese, serving shark fin soup is a form of respect and honour to their guests. The fin may be tasteless, but food aint all about taste. texture is a huge component too. Shark farming as an idea is not original, but that does not mean I have to pass it off as a solution. If so, all the above comments can be deleted, people have brought them up before, where's the originality? Before rashly brushing off opinions different from yours, please have the sense to consider all angles.
Self-serving?
Hahaha, no you're wrong there - the self-serving ones are the people eating shark fin soup, and trying to defend the practice.
You did not reply to the above info; just pasted a comment.
So, how long have regular Chinese being eating shark fin soup? Not long at all.
Don't lump all Chinese together, either; there are people who are turning down shark fin soup as concerned about species' populations (and cruelty, just highlighted by SPCA here).
You're the one who hasn't considered the issue. Before "replying", try reading info and making a considered response.
See, thats what im talkin bout - self-serving bias. You flippantly brush off others opinions as silly and ignorant just because they run differently from yours. If you were so well-informed yourself, you would have known that shark fin soup dates back to the Ming dynasty and not just "Chinese culture of any antiquity". Its not only for "elites" but is also a signature dish at Chinese weddings and important occasion. For the Chinese, serving shark fin soup is a form of respect and honour to their guests. The fin may be tasteless, but food aint all about taste. texture is a huge component too. Shark farming as an idea is not original, but that does not mean I have to pass it off as a solution. If so, all the above comments can be deleted, people have brought them up before, where's the originality? Before rashly brushing off opinions different from yours, please have the sense to consider all angles.
Maybe you should look up how long is "not long at all" since you're not Chinese. Unlike you, im not making assumptions. did u read any line that says "ALL chinese" consume shark fin. no. what i wrote was how long the practice dated back and what it symbolizes to have shark fin soup at a wedding. please learn to read properly or you'll end up putting words into other's mouth and look foolish. it is one thing to fight against animal cruelty and another to slander the cultural practice of other race. it is insensitive people like you who give rise to extremists like al qaeda.
Again you make absurd "points".
It is clearly not "self-serving" to try to help protect another species! Equally obviously, nor is this an insensitive thing to do.
If there are actions arising from insensitivity or self-serving here, they surely relate to eating shark fin soup, purely for the texture of the shark fin, and feebly defending it without considering the various issues involved.
Your posts show that you are not responding to points in this thread, or you would have noticed, say:
A Cantonese correspondent tells me that, a far as he knows, the problem with shark fin soup has become prominent only since the 1980s. Certainly, it has been on menus before that, but only for the seriously rich; ordinary folks simply could not afford it. Now, with both increasing affluence generally in Hong Kong, and falling prices because the "fishery" effort has increased to profit from the market that has been created, it has been accessible to more. Hence the promotion of the soup as an indicator of wealth and prestige, of conspicuous extravagance.
Anyway, you have your own blog, so you can bluster as you wish on that; seems best given you do not really reply to info by others.


















SCM Post this morning reports that Disney is defiant over shark's fin soup issue; spokeswoman quoted as saying: